tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post527266848271830510..comments2024-02-11T01:14:21.904-08:00Comments on SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: Bugging Out or Relocating?FerFALhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07578136334334588454noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-48450684041281019682012-01-19T19:54:10.893-08:002012-01-19T19:54:10.893-08:00So .... Ferfal how about your neighbor Chile as ...So .... Ferfal how about your neighbor Chile as a relocation destination?<br />Simon Black makes a strong case for it. For you it would seem a no-brainer.<br /><br />Perhaps I missed your evaluation of Chile and why you still think (even with the U.S. moving ever closer to warmonger and martial law lockdown) that the states are better place to be.<br /><br />Haven't you run the numbers for the US budget? 40% of government money spent is borrowed. When the U.S. loses the ability to borrow it's going to be one ugly place to be. Isn't Chile in a better position to weather the coming storm?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-77892255137705313962012-01-18T13:23:58.142-08:002012-01-18T13:23:58.142-08:00Congratulations on getting out safely! I've b...Congratulations on getting out safely! I've been so worried for you and yours for years of following this blog. Good luck on the new life!falcon_01https://www.blogger.com/profile/12757035581276689343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-25126684882932805842012-01-17T12:08:05.932-08:002012-01-17T12:08:05.932-08:00Thanks to Greg in Texas and Maldek for your respon...Thanks to Greg in Texas and Maldek for your responses. I realize now I should have used the search box and typed in Cafayate. Sorry to trouble you.<br /><br />I've seen more and more from Casey and others, such as Simon Black, about the need to plan for residence abroad in case of troubles. In particular, Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay are recommended. Since I only speak English, I would normally dismiss the idea of living in a country where English is not the lingua franca. Also, the folks promoting the idea are certainly selling something. But I think there may be other good reasons for them to advocate such a move, and I'm just trying to see the pros and cons. If anyone knows the cons of Argentina it would be Ferfal. Now I see from reading his other posts and comments in the forums that there are serious cons to making such a move.<br /><br />Bob in CaliforniaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-45686432441288746782012-01-16T18:56:33.997-08:002012-01-16T18:56:33.997-08:00@BoB
Why you ask?
a) Because he is selling real ...@BoB<br /><br />Why you ask? <br />a) Because he is selling real estate for a profit.<br />b) Hit target audience are people that do not have to work but instead can retire on their world wide income.<br />If you have say $10m in gold you can afford to "bug out" to the desert, got it?<br /><br />@Bill<br />If you relocte to the first world you will have to find yourself a job -> before you go there.<br />If you relocate to the 3rd world you do not need a job or you stay in the US/EU, got it?<br /><br />@ElDesmadre<br />Uruguay is very nice. Chile might be even better.<br />If you consider going to any of these places from the US/EU: expect about the same standard of living for about the same cost.<br />Dont expect to find a job that pay even close to what you get back "home". If you go there - you dont need a job, or you stay where you are, got it?<br /><br />(and the 3x "got it" been on intention, because all this has been discussed in detail in the forums)Maldekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691520628595107662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-15522210687564873182012-01-16T12:48:17.992-08:002012-01-16T12:48:17.992-08:00You know, reading your words made me feel guilty. ...You know, reading your words made me feel guilty. I know over the years I've suggested moving to the US and offered to do what legwork I could to assist but, really, I never thought about the emotional toll. Having kids has made me soft, it seems - I get it now.<br /><br />It's a hell of a thing you've done and not to be taken lightly. Likewise, though, it's a hell of a step for your family's survival. Good luck, my friend, and safe travels.KeithCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-33980493234928693662012-01-16T04:39:40.210-08:002012-01-16T04:39:40.210-08:00Fernando,
You state, if you lived here, you wou...Fernando,<br /><br /> You state, if you lived here, you would not relocate out of the U.S.. Currently, living here in the midwest (U.S), in general, everything appears OK, provided you have a job. Inflation is not out of control yet. But what concerns me, is that the dollar is precarious, and could collapse at any time. Any multitude of events could trigger it, and with it, a massive rise in crime, high food and gas prices, etc.... Things you have written about and know well. You mention a couple of plus sides to living in the U.S. is that we still have a Constitution and still have gun rights. But you know this will not last long once martial law is declared. So at that point, the situation will be at least as bad as Argentina in 2001, if not worse, given the U.S. has a much larger population and holds the title of the worlds largest debtor nation. The U.S. would reach 3rd World status rapidly. So, it would seem to me, the smart thing to do, given we know this will happen (unless Ron Paul is elected), would be to make plans to relocate to a First World country ahead of time before the SHTF. Your thoughts? <br /><br />Joe in Missouripriethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04544537474958176834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-58222217719650037262012-01-15T22:54:12.502-08:002012-01-15T22:54:12.502-08:00@Greg - and were then not your ancesters yellow to...@Greg - and were then not your ancesters yellow too, for having bugged out of their native land to come to the US. <br /><br /><br />NDAA - many wealthy folks are in fact getting out!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-69213718569733497822012-01-15T16:21:54.675-08:002012-01-15T16:21:54.675-08:00One of the biggest problems when relocating is obt...One of the biggest problems when relocating is obtaining a way to pay for food and lodging. What are you doing for employment?Bill N.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-27017059481732641602012-01-15T06:11:30.510-08:002012-01-15T06:11:30.510-08:00Bob,
He's already commented on the Casey thin...Bob, <br />He's already commented on the Casey thing in one of his posts, don't remember which one, basically, Ferfal stated that the area is in a desert with no local amenities, it's still in Argentina where there are no individual rights only the will of the govt. It ought to tell you a bunch that he took his most precious possessions to Northern Ireland to be safe instead of waiting on immigration to the US, rather than stay in Argentina, where the govt is (Kristina), daily, dreaming up new ideas on how the "State" can rip off the liberty of the individual. Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan said it best, this (USA) is the last stand for individual LIBERTY. Americans that bug out have a distinct color to them, yellow.Greg in Texasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-77864443061782780462012-01-15T06:05:44.829-08:002012-01-15T06:05:44.829-08:00I have a question - some time ago you also suggest...I have a question - some time ago you also suggested Uruguay as a nice place to move to. Have there been any significant changes there since then that you chose to leave South America altogether?ElDesmadrehttp://thebeervault.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-38492892039169227732012-01-14T22:44:57.620-08:002012-01-14T22:44:57.620-08:00Thanks for elaborating on the difference between b...Thanks for elaborating on the difference between bugging out and relocating, and congratulations on your move.<br />I was curious about what you may think of some Americans who are relocating to Argentina. Doug Casey is a well-known advocate of international investing who has set up an enclave in the western part of Argentina for himself and others who are concerned about the political and economic situation in the states. With the news I've been reading about the political situation in Argentina, I wonder why he would risk living there. Any thoughts?<br /><br />Thanks for sharing for your valuable experiences with us.<br /><br />Bob in CaliforniaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com