tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post7774779470608452394..comments2024-02-11T01:14:21.904-08:00Comments on SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: High-Rise Dweller Escape KitFerFALhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07578136334334588454noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-21868220209146593382017-07-04T15:01:32.939-07:002017-07-04T15:01:32.939-07:00Folks, I understand rapelling from a flaming build...Folks, I understand rapelling from a flaming buildling is far from ideal, and yes the rope can burn, but then again you need to watch more videos of what happened. Some people ended up using bed sheets to climb down. Im pretty sure an actual rope would have been even better (and safer) than tying a few bed sheets together.<br />FerFALFerFALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578136334334588454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-9878963594130351832017-07-04T12:24:13.399-07:002017-07-04T12:24:13.399-07:00Much like a lifeboat, these kits should be require...Much like a lifeboat, these kits should be required by building code. Oh and don't forget to tie the harness back on when you get to the bottom, someone one else may appreciate it. Steve in KYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-57363852137842568622017-06-30T10:13:25.788-07:002017-06-30T10:13:25.788-07:00Most (not all) climbers don't bother with hel...Most (not all) climbers don't bother with helmets, and choose a static rope, rather than a dynamic rope for rappelling. Figure8 descenders are still used by some, but you can use carabiners instead. <br />The London fire was unusual in that the flames were engulfing the outside of the building, so in this case a rope may not have helped. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-40593892143900540672017-06-29T15:19:05.794-07:002017-06-29T15:19:05.794-07:00I would be concerned about the fire burning throug...I would be concerned about the fire burning through the rope. Being a former Paratrooper, can you guess what equipment I would have in my high rise apartment?Swedehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01775312335071647413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-4227698762754737632017-06-28T16:00:15.785-07:002017-06-28T16:00:15.785-07:00Fire and poly rope don't mix. Flames were jett...Fire and poly rope don't mix. Flames were jetting out of that building's window holes. Need a steel cable system at the least.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-35006800055624054492017-06-25T09:28:34.396-07:002017-06-25T09:28:34.396-07:00I don't know much about rappelling or rope, bu...I don't know much about rappelling or rope, but I would want my rope to be at least heat resistant. If the fire is above me, I could probably just use the stairs. If the fire is below me, flames may be coming out of the windows and melt the rope as I am rappelling down leading to an untimely dirt nap.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09130275938469447947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-66886505972064646852017-06-23T06:36:18.315-07:002017-06-23T06:36:18.315-07:00Rappelling is quite easy but I have some points to...Rappelling is quite easy but I have some points to add:<br /><br />- if the only thing you want to do is rappelling, a strong static rope is enough, a dynamic one is for cushioning falls, and that is not supposed to happen while rappelling.<br />- rappelling is done alone. You could probably hold a small child in emergency, but every family member should have his/here own gear and training.<br />- rappelling is super easy, but it's also an easy way to kill yourself. Many beginners simply let the rope go when they get distracted. That's why it is important to use a safety line with a prusik knot on it until rappelling is a second nature to you.csabahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10915234978090686984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-35599943246635408822017-06-22T21:07:11.369-07:002017-06-22T21:07:11.369-07:00Fernando,
I would avoid generic "rope" ...Fernando,<br /><br />I would avoid generic "rope" for lifesaving purposes; you have zero objective ability to determine strength and construction. <br /><br />Also, you want "static" line for rappelling, not dynamic. <br /><br />Here is a good resource, and their products are best quality. I used them for decades in a professional capacity.<br /><br />http://www.cmcrescue.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-66047313662515587602017-06-22T19:11:12.006-07:002017-06-22T19:11:12.006-07:00This would be minimally practical for a apartment ...This would be minimally practical for a apartment building fire scenario. Flames shoot out of nearly every window hole in an apartment fire, like in London. It would melt that rope in seconds. A steel cable would be necessary. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-62128867220912093532017-06-22T16:22:54.925-07:002017-06-22T16:22:54.925-07:00Based on the description on the Petzl site (https:...Based on the description on the Petzl site (https://www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/Ropes/VOLTA-9-2-mm#.WUxQQLFOmfA) it looks like that's a dynamic rope. For rappelling what you want is a static rope. Dynamic ropes are intended for protection while climbing. They're designed to stretch, so if you fall while climbing you don't get hurt by the sudden stop when the rope goes taut. When rappelling, that means that they're rather "bouncy". When you get to the end of a long rappel the rope will act like a bungee cord and you'll bounce up and down a couple of feet every time you descend a bit. It can be done, but if you're buying a rope just for rappelling it makes more sense to get a static rope (which does not stretch very much). Blackeaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06532856674434108861noreply@blogger.com