tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post7994175047169401043..comments2024-02-11T01:14:21.904-08:00Comments on SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: How hard a target should my house be?FerFALhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07578136334334588454noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-40563424552995855922011-12-22T09:53:06.251-08:002011-12-22T09:53:06.251-08:00While the comments about the Cartels and extortion...While the comments about the Cartels and extortion are no doubt true, the question was hardening your house against burglary/break ins. <br />If a criminal organization wants you or your property, they're most likely going to get it. The same also applies to large numbers of looters looking for supplies.<br />Against the average thief, solid core doors wit a reinforced frame, good locks on the doors and windows, and some exterior lighting will go a long way to putting you way down on the hit list.<br />These things can also be selling points if you're ready to move somewhere else.<br />Burglar bars, at least in the U.S. can be a double-edged sword. Yes they will help keep the thieves out, but they can also scare off some buyers if they brliev that the bars are an indication that the it's a "bad" neighborhood.<br />YMMV.<br /><br />I believe tha if the original poster had tried tonvince his parents that better locks and lighting woudl enhance the future resale value of the house, they might have been more receptive. <br />After that, wait a while, get a dog, install some inexpensive motion sensors tied into the exterior lights... I think you get the gist of what I'm saying.<br />I'm guessing from the tone of his original post that he may have been a little to overboard in the way he pitched the security improvements to his parents.Blackthorn D. Stickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13455492914625901974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-68898079295762270432011-12-22T08:13:49.752-08:002011-12-22T08:13:49.752-08:00I have worked to have my security changes "hi...I have worked to have my security changes "hidden in plain sight". Security film is the perfect example. Draw no attention but harden to the limits of your budget.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-17895955423196419442011-12-21T20:00:27.931-08:002011-12-21T20:00:27.931-08:00It is sort of like the joke that you don't hav...It is sort of like the joke that you don't have to outrun the bear, just the slowest person you are with.<br /><br />Like you said, about anything can be done and made to look nice, but it will not be cheap. Unless you are rich setting realistic expectations is important. Stopping a couple guys with basic burglary tools (flat bar, screwdriver, etc) who are trying to bump locks is doable. Stopping 6 guys with dynamic entry tools and a truck that has a winch who don't care about making noise is not realistic on most folks budget.<br /><br />I think another important consideration is the good old boring OPSEC. Some security lights, a decent lock, a dog and maybe some bars on windows is enough to convince someone to go elsewhere, unless they know you have lots of stuff worth stealing. Crooks will crack any nut if thye think what is inside is worth it. What will serve as a fine deturrent for a normal small family home won't be enough for a well established professionals mansion with 2 expensive European sports cars and large gun and jewelry collections.TORhttp://tslrf.blogspot.com/p/blog-roll.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-22034781848417223022011-12-21T05:26:50.791-08:002011-12-21T05:26:50.791-08:00Anon 7:18 - very good points made, that is EXACTLY...Anon 7:18 - very good points made, that is EXACTLY what happens with Mexican drug cartel gang shake downs, just pay us to leave you alone and we're good. You don't pay and you will cry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-89076990880928911582011-12-20T19:18:30.619-08:002011-12-20T19:18:30.619-08:00The truth is that hardening the house works ok for...The truth is that hardening the house works ok for the casual burglar and may convince the hardened criminal to look else where.<br /><br />The truth is that in places like Mexico the $hit rolls differently. You are sitting at your place of business, say a doctor at his practice. Two thugs arrive and introduce themselves and ask you to get on their protection payroll. Failure to do so, they say, will result in your kid getting kidnapped, your wife taken, or yourself held hostage. These guys don't threaten you with a gun, but when they act, perhaps a couple of weeks later when you least expect it, it will be a team of 2 cars and about 4-6 thugs. They will pick you up or a family member and at that point not having paid protection money will seem like a real stupid idea. So you see, organized crime can't be fought off to easily and a hardened structure will do nothing to keep you safe.<br /><br />Unfortunately, wtshtf organized crime flourishes. Even lonesome criminals hitting establishments under protection end-up dead. It is a new order, very brutal and short of going on the defensive 100% of the time, it is only a matter time before the extortion gets to your life.<br /><br />Gallo@GTA Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-76496604672930470282011-12-20T13:33:28.292-08:002011-12-20T13:33:28.292-08:00"At least better than the guy next door"..."At least better than the guy next door" is the best answer to any question I've seen in weeks!millenniumflyhttp://rethinksurvival.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-67674192740711770242011-12-20T10:20:48.062-08:002011-12-20T10:20:48.062-08:00Just making your home more difficult to break into...Just making your home more difficult to break into will probably convince the Bad Guys to move on (unless you are dumb and display all kinds of toys they would want to possess anyway).<br /><br />Commercial construction quality steel doors and frames, grouted into masonry jambs and head for example, those will run about $1600 for door, frame, hinges and other hardware but I think are worth it. <br /><br />Try and keep hiding places away from windows and entrances and a dog roaming the premises - your odds for being left alone go way up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com