tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post8504803827650419619..comments2024-02-11T01:14:21.904-08:00Comments on SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: Bug out and Relocating: Destination CriteriaFerFALhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07578136334334588454noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-21437749145601751532013-04-23T00:44:44.404-07:002013-04-23T00:44:44.404-07:00Very good tips there, and I do agree about Austral...Very good tips there, and I do agree about Australia – I live there! Ashfield to be exact. I know of a few who have place their belongings in a self storage facility to travel. Some finally settle somewhere else, returning only to have a garage sale for their items in storage. Some never settled for long and return because they simply cannot take the culture or even the food. I suppose seeing a country as a tourist and as a citizen are two different perspectives altogether, the former has fun, the latter has to pay taxes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17795470596829648796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-22018323919150618332012-08-26T19:24:58.262-07:002012-08-26T19:24:58.262-07:00I saw someone else comment about Iceland. I wonder...I saw someone else comment about Iceland. I wonder what you think of that? I looked into it based on their- in my opinion- appropriate response to the financial crisis. They seem like they are pro-freedom and common sense. They seem cohesive and not likely to collapse into rioting the way some other countries might. But on the other hand the cost of living is high and the population is very small and they are rather isolated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-26837814972851052282012-08-23T17:17:27.346-07:002012-08-23T17:17:27.346-07:00As an european, i will be you i'll choose Icel...As an european, i will be you i'll choose Iceland, Norway or Finland instead of Ireland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-71550634417783635492012-08-22T02:52:00.574-07:002012-08-22T02:52:00.574-07:00"Northern Ireland would be such a place. Its ..."Northern Ireland would be such a place. Its safer than England, even Scotland"<br /><br />Hmmm not so sure this is true. considering the war that raged there for 20-30 years. There are A LOT of weapons and ammo stashed there with 2 very bitter 'gangs' still very much alive and kicking (maybe not so visual now) guess the only problem then is you've got to pick which team will win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-36901859899592726062012-08-20T12:04:34.651-07:002012-08-20T12:04:34.651-07:001) In contrast to the Pacific Rim, there are good ...<br />1) In contrast to the Pacific Rim, there are good reasons why a LOT of Smart, Wealthy people fleeing their countries (Russian oligarchs, former African dictators, Greek shipowners, Saudis, French tax evaders,etc ) have taken refuge in the UK and invested huge sums in London<br />homes. <br /><br />2) A major reason is that they get the full force of US military protection but without the <br />annoying US government sticking its nose into their business accounts and extracting taxes.<br />The City of London rivals New York as a major financial center --courts protect property rights and the government is eager to attract foreign investment.<br /><br />3) There are some strong reasons why the USA supported the UK in WWI, WWII and the Cold War.<br /><br />a) The Pentagon looks at the capabilities, not just the spoken intentions, of nations.<br />For 100 years, a unified Europe has been the one entity on earth with the assets to challenge US power. That continues to be true in the present, especially if the EU allied itself with China or Russia. So our policy is the same as the UK has pursued for 600 years: Divide and conquer <br /><br />USA GDP: $15 Trillion<br />EU GDP: $17.3 Trillion <br /><br />China GDP: $7.3 Trillion<br />Russia GDP: $1.9 Trillion<br />UK GDP: $2.4 Trillion<br /><br />Ref: CIA Factbook 2011<br /><br />b) For that purpose, the UK is our unsinkable aircraft carrier -- our springboard for invasions into Europe.<br /><br />Plus she controls useful points for our Navy -- the Gibraltar chokepoint, the Baltic chokepoint, Diego Garcia, Ascension Island, Bermuda, northern exit for Russian arctic ports like Murmansk and Archangel, etc.<br /><br />c) The US developed the atomic bomb due to early warning from the UK and while we initially cut her out from the Manhattan program we resumed collaboration after she developed nukes on her own. (Klaus Fuchs lived because he gave the atomic bomb design to the UK --in whose custody he was held -- as well as to the Soviet Union.) Today the UK has her own Trident submarine with enough MIRVed missiles to turn significant parts of Russia or China into a pile of ashes.<br /><br />4) For the survivalist worse case, the UK also has several backdoor exits. There are several 2 mile long airplane runways located in the northern wildernesses of Greenland, Canada, and Maine USA. <br /><br />Those formed a major air ferry route to the UK in WWII (via Iceland with the Faroe Islands as backup). During WWII, Churchill had plans to evacuate from the UK via this North Atlantic Air Ferry Route and carry on the fight from Canada if need be.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Route<br /><br />Some people even fly it today with just Cessnas and Pipers but I think they are nuts.<br /><br />http://220kts.com/ferry-flights/atlantic-ferry-routes.html<br /><br />5) And while the English Channel is a formidable moat to military invaders from the European mainland<br />(if protected by the Royal Navy and US Navy), the Channel is easily crossed by sailboat if someone wanted to leave the UK for the European mainland or head south to Africa. <br /><br />Plus the Trade Winds and calm weather make the trip to the Caribbean from Spain a reasonably safe trip for a yacht (even Columbus managed it.) Note also that It's about 1 mile across calm water from the British Virgin Islands to the US Virgin<br /> Islands (which are part of the USA, not a protectorate.) <br /><br />Don Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-84969202618889675832012-08-20T10:14:46.401-07:002012-08-20T10:14:46.401-07:00Hi Jim and FerFal,
having relocated myself and fa...Hi Jim and FerFal,<br /><br />having relocated myself and family from europe to south america a few years ago, I would like to offer you a different point of view.<br /><br />0) Do not bug out. Prepare for the worst where you are now. Bug out is also called "refugee" and you do not want to be one. You do that to survive a desaster - you do not do that because of "a bad feeling". Got it?<br /><br />If we talk "relocating" that is a different story entirely. Relocating is done while times are good. Quality of life is ok and you have the time, money and social resources to plan a relocation.<br /><br />You normaly do that to IMPROVE your standard of living. To find "greener" pastures, so to speak.<br /><br />1) You better plan at least 1 year ahead of relocation how to meet the requirement for permanent residency. Dont expat and "see how it goes" - bad idea.<br /><br />2+4) I have had enough of 1st world lifestyle, its overregulation, high taxes and complicated laws.<br /><br />Corruption works both ways - if you can afford to pay the corrupt, it really makes your life a lot easier.<br /><br />Poverty works both ways too. Sure crime is a problem and you have to protect yourself and your worldly stuff. (Read *YOU* - dont rely on the police to do your dirty work.)<br /><br />On the other hand poor people work for peanuts and you have the luxury of having a chica for your house (and bed if you wish so), servants, workers and so on.<br /><br />As long as you have an income (or enough money already) from US/EU you can really enjoy life in SA.<br /><br />5) Cost of living is a biggy. With U$ 2000 per month you live somewhat ok in most of europe/US but you would live very well in Paraguay for example. <br /><br />6)Language is very important. Dont expect a single latino to speak english. Be happy if they understand your castillano.<br /><br />Culture: The western nations (EUSA) have a culture of socialism, high taxes and lots of regulations. And yes my american friends, that does apply to the US - very socialist. <br /><br />8) The stronger the goverment and the bigger its share of the economy, the more socialist of a state you have. Great britain is an excellent example of such a state.<br />Many, many rules and regulations - freedom in my book looks different.<br /><br />But it is just as FerFal said, personal preference makes all the difference in the world.Maldekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691520628595107662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-17767588005502329622012-08-20T08:43:18.118-07:002012-08-20T08:43:18.118-07:00FANTASTIC list Ferfal. Thanks SO MUCH for the grea...FANTASTIC list Ferfal. Thanks SO MUCH for the great blog, the book and for giving of yourself so much. Your readers really do appreciate it!<br />P.S. -So, how's the Irish Whiskey? You should tell us a few of your favorite 'things' about your newly adopted country!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-69683645486137997612012-08-20T07:56:10.657-07:002012-08-20T07:56:10.657-07:001) I think military security of a refuge needs to ...<br />1) I think military security of a refuge needs to be considered as the USA's relative power wanes (huge debt, aging population,etc.) and other nations like China grow stronger. My wife's wealthy cousin is relocating to New Zealand<br />because he fears social unrest and high taxes are coming to the USA but I think he is making a mistake. New Zealand has no military forces of any <br />consequence and depends on Australia for protection. <br /><br />2) However, the population of Australia is 20 million, New Zealand's is 4 million and there are 3 BILLION just to the north across a chain of islands. <br /><br />Japanese submarines freely cruised around New Zealand in WWI and Japanese planes flew unopposed over her cities until President Roosevelt sent 100,000 Marines<br />to protect her. Australia would be speaking Japanese today if not for the US Pacific fleet. She may be speaking Chinese tomorrow. China just bought<br />38 square MILES of New Zealand farmland (Crafar Farms). <br /><br />3) Plus New Zealand and Australia are going to receive swarms of refugees in the future --there are several Polynesian nations with hundreds of thousands of people living on islands less than 6 feet above the Pacific. See what happens when global warming melts the polar ice caps and raises the sea levels. The nation of Kiribati is already pressing Australia and New Zealand to accept its 100,000 people<br />as permanent refugees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati#Independence_to_present_day<br /><br />Don Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-70066341901008901392012-08-20T07:50:57.015-07:002012-08-20T07:50:57.015-07:00Much less James Wesley Rawles.Much less James Wesley Rawles.Don Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-56849867706242393302012-08-20T07:47:07.277-07:002012-08-20T07:47:07.277-07:00Re Jame's question " Jim..you're in M...Re Jame's question " Jim..you're in Montana--why would you bug out there?"<br />----------<br />How about this?<br /><br />http://www.backwoodshome.com/columns/pix/benson0201-5.gif <br /><br />US Minuteman nuclear ICBMS are spread across a large area around <br />Great Falls , Montana. Target Number One in a Russian attack.<br /><br />If Putin gets an itchy trigger finger, not even the cockroaches will survive.Don Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-43955351329183466412012-08-20T05:38:35.028-07:002012-08-20T05:38:35.028-07:00Ferfal,
Perhaps you can answer this, as someone wh...Ferfal,<br />Perhaps you can answer this, as someone who has made a choice of security:-<br />In a recent blog discussion on being able to be armed, I was on the side of saying I'd rather live in a country where violence is so rare that you dont need to be armed. The other side were saying they couldnt imagine not being able to be armed whenever they want, and no matter how bad the violence and danger got where they lived, they would never move somewhere where they couldnt conceal carry.<br />You've seen both sides of it, what would your choice be?<br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8939666320943790100.post-87807048524748940082012-08-19T21:43:29.548-07:002012-08-19T21:43:29.548-07:00Jim, with all due respect, you're in Montana -...Jim, with all due respect, you're in Montana - why would you bug out of there? Anyhow it was a very good question, and a good answer, thank you both. My opinion Jim is consider coastal Southern Alaska or Canada. - J.J. in Iowa<br />P.S. Ferfal, love the book and the blog, glad you found your way to the Green Island.James family outpost, Iowa.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00062611090739281431noreply@blogger.com