Friday, November 5, 2010

Elite buying Patagonia

Hi, I recently bought your book (awesome content) and follow your blog. is site a read regularly. This article was posted about 10 days ago.

You might be aware of it already along with the author. I found it fascinating.

Thanks for all you do!


Thanks Kim, pretty interesting.
Some of it I don’t agree with, but in the end most of it is true. Cant say that Ted Turner or the Benetton family (largest land owner in Argentina) have some world government secret plan, but its no mystery here anymore that foreigners are buying strategic chunks of the country, specially the ones with access to some of the world largest reserves of potable water. 

While some of these people are clearly targeting the water, I believe a lot of this has to do with the super rich idea of preparedness: Buy half a province in a corrupt country (so that I can get away with anything) far south with great natural resources in case the world goes to hell.
I can’t disagree with that, but I doubt many of my readers have the kind of money these guys manage, and that makes all the difference in the world.
While the billionaire buys acres by the thousands, along with the government connection to do very much as he pleases, have people already prelocated, enough supplies and manpower to run their own little country, the average Joe falling for some marketing trick only gets a parcel of land 2000 miles away from the nearest decent hospital… and you don’t have your own chopper to get you there if needed. Nor do you have the billions these guys do, so you'll be a bit angry when you see the expenses of living there are actually 2 or 3 times what' you've been assured.

But it is true that few Argentines own much of Patagonia any more. The Kirchners themselves, they own a fair share, but its mostly in the hands of the rich foreign elite.
We’ve known this for a while, and its been discussed in the local mainstream media that the sovereignty of some provinces is at risk because of this so we all know that, its not some conspiracy theory. We have laws that forbid taking control of lakes and access to their shores, yet many TV documentaries (Telenoche news did several of these, so did Rolando GraƱa in Channel 2 ) have shown otherwise. Get close enough to some of these beautiful lakes and a nice 4x4 truck with not so nice people will tell you that you are in private property and ask you to leave. The reporter explains to them that their boss may own the land, but they must provide access to the lake shores. They really don’t care, and tell you to leave immediately.Guess this is the world's elite idea of stocking up on water. :-)



Anonymous said...

Maybe this is the global elite's version of a survival retreat-buy up a lot of land that has little population but immense natural resources in an out of the way place where nobody will notice, then make it a separate country for only the elite and let the rest of the world go to hell.

The idea of an impregnable "Galtian colony" has been around for a LONG time, and was fully expressed by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged, where the global elites, under the leadership of John Galt, found a self-sustaining colony and let the rest of the useless eaters suffer in order to "learn their lesson", the lesson being that communism of any kind doesn't work, and that the people will have to play ball according to the elite's terms and dictates.

Patagonia would be the perfect place for such a "model society" consisting of the global elites and their descendants to be founded, since it has immense natural resources yet very few people. The elites know they've looted the world, there is no more wealth to be stolen, so then they retreat to their Patagonian paradise and let the rest of the world die off. Then they "return and rebuild" as John Galt orders at the end of Atlas Shrugged, after the cities have become depopulated.

The ideas of Ayn Rand underlie what they are doing, and should be studied even though Rand herself was slightly batty, she was the vessel by which the plan was presented. Note that there are no children, elderly, or disabled in Rand's vision of a perfect world; such people are "useless eaters" who can't be allowed to exist. If one doesn't pull one's own weight in the Galtian Paradise, one can lie in the gutter and die.

Anonymous said...

Those are just cheap playgrounds alternatives for the rich and elite.

Places like the ones in Patagonia are hard to find in the U.S, since they are either owned by some other billionaire, owned by the U.S government or just really really expensive. (hundreds of millions, billions)

Buying property in Argentina means one can do whatever one wants with it, without the U.S government sticking their noses in your business. Fly your helicopters, shoot anything that moves etcetera. If I were a billionaire, I'd buy some property there too.

Anonymous said...

And it's just a sound investment since as the population increases people will need more water.

Don Williams said...

1) Hey, Ferfal, did you see the last James Bond movie--"Quantum of Solace"?

"We have already begun to destabilize the government."


2) Contrary to the movie, I think the world's predators are more focused on Bolivia's Salar de Uyuni --containing
50 percent of the world's reserves of the lithium needed for electric cars -- rather than Bolivia's water.

Anonymous said...

OK, you need some 'perspective' on all this.

Yes, yes, the global elites...

You know, I'm sure when good old Adolf Hitler was living the high life and enjoying the Bavarian Alps in 1940, I'm REAL SURE that little did he know that in less than FIVE YEARS he would eat the barrel of his own gun.


The USA and the USSR have done so and we both suffered heavy losses at the hands of peasants (supplied by China/Russia or the USA to be sure). The USA in Vietnam and the USSR in Afghanistan are but TWO examples.

I'm more concerned that these fools may actually START WWII (NBC) and everyone has a really bad day.

OH, and to the comment, "Places like the ones in Patagonia are hard to find in the U.S" all I can say is, YOU AIN'T LOOKING VERY CAREFULLY...

I know of several places and you don't need to be rich to afford a house on an acre or less. ON the lake? Nah, but close enough to walk? YEAH.

Study history. Realize that to SURVIVE you don't have to fight. You have to avoid being killed, regardless of how. So stay safe, be prepared and by NO MEANS take anything for granted.

Dixie said...

I am from old europe and I read you with great interest since months.

That story about Patagonia is really interesting. Unfortunately what that elite has forgotten is the source of its power : an organised state with police, army and laws. In a case of a world going to chaos they won't be nothing anymore.

So they will have to defend their property. The problem is that our elite is unable even to put back a bottle of milk in a fridge. They can't live one daily moment without domesticity. But will these people sacrifice their life for rulers of a past world, i doubt so. So the actual elite is working for someone else, too bad for them! If you study old europe story, the feudal elite that emerged from the chaos was a warrior one. The past elite was swept away by people whith great ferocity and bravery.

Rey said...

Interesting take on Ayn Rand's "Gault's Gulch". The first post paints the gulch as an elitist playground where a bunch of "I got mine, so screw you and die already" elites go off to punish the rest of the poor subjugated masses. The poster would do well to go back and re-read Atlas Shrugged without commentary from her college professor. Gault's Gulch is, for all practical means, a survival retreat. No different than the location some of us have moved to. Small towns with like minded folks. Or in some cases, cabins or farms in the woods, away from civilization. Yes, the inhabitants of the Gulch were hand picked by John Gault. No different than the members of a "group". Yes, they abandoned the rest of the world. No different that the rest of us would for survival purposes. Yes, they were producers. So am I and so are most that are preparing. Where they the elite in their world? Yes. With the possible exception of Dafne Taggart, who inherited the railroad, they earned their wealth and positions by work and innovation. All were dirt poor in their youth and through hard work, determination and innovation achieved great wealth. The "useless eaters" then demanded they take care of them and using the power of the government, punished them for their success. That is why they left and encouraged others to leave. A cursory read of the book would show that the inhabitants of the gulch were not the only ones that left society, many other producers did also. As to the population of the gulch having no elderly, wrong. At least on of the inhabitants, a professor, described himself as an old man. The perfect world of Atlas Shrugged is not perfect because it would only contain the elite. It was an attempt to have a meritocracy were hard work and achievement was rewarded. Were your property, earned by hard work and determination, is yours to do as you wish. Where charity is what you do from your heart, not at the barrel of a gun. Where people strive to achieve not just to take from others. It saddens me that we have evolved to the point where anyone can fail to see the merits of such a society.