Tuesday, August 21, 2012

“But Glocks are too big/fat/just don’t fit my hand well…”




To that common complain when I recommend Glocks, I reply:


FerFAL

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

The gen4 Glock with adjustable backstraps is even easier to grip.

Totalinvestor said...


Admit it FERFAL, she is better than you. :)

Shannon Baker said...

She is an incredible shooter and I loved watching the videos but I would be willing to bet that gun she has has been custom fitted to her grip and is about as different from a stock Glock as a a gun can be.

I just purchased a Gen4 Glock 19 and I am working with it to break it in and find ways to work around the grip size. Shooting is not an issue but reaching the magazine release and slide release with my thumb requires changing my grip which really slows me down when "getting back in the fight." I think I can train around this but it will take some time. I just hope the legendary Glock reliability is more than a legend.

On a side note, it sure looks like she goes "muzzle up" when running between positions and reloading, I would be DQ'ed for that in the IDPA matches around here.

-sbaker

FerFAL said...

"Admit it FERFAL, she is better than you. :)"
Of course she is! :-)
Shannon, she used standard Glocks, there's also children that use Glocks in competitions with not problem.
FerFAL

Anonymous said...

You can always do a DIY Glock grip reduction, it's on the internet.

Also although i'm not discrediting that young female shooter, she is a sport shooter and they shoot with two hands always on the weapon. In self defence shooting more often than not, one needs to shoot with only one hand. So there is legitimacy to the complaint of not being able to grip a pistol with one hand firmly enough for rapid accurate shooting. That would not justify purchasing a singlestack though, there are plenty of reliable double stack pistols with thinner grips than the Glock.

FerFAL said...

"Also although i'm not discrediting that young female shooter, she is a sport shooter and they shoot with two hands always on the weapon. In self defence shooting more often than not, one needs to shoot with only one hand. So there is legitimacy to the complaint of not being able to grip a pistol with one hand firmly enough for rapid accurate shooting."
If in doubt watch more of her videos. She does plenty of single handed shooting, and does it perfectly well with great speed and accuracy!
FerFAL

Anonymous said...

The gun she shoots is clearly "unlimited," having a C-More type optical sight and, from the blast signature, a compensator. Even in 9x19, a Glock usually exhibits more muzzle flip than that, so judging our ability at the range with a box-stock Glock 17 or 19 against that is unfair.

IPSC-style shooting is great fun, and watching her performance is enjoyable(she's cute, too), but it's largely a game.

The Glock IS boxy. It is thick for an IWB carry. The benefit is that Glock 9mm's (Gen 3's, anyway) are among the most reliable handguns available. Their design is a poetry of simplicity. It is the standard by which to compare, especially with a 3.5# connector to improve the trigger. From holster to hits on target is faster than just about anything.

David said...

Ferfal, if people think the Glock is boxy, they should try the Desert Eagle in .50AE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLBrct5NfME

Watch the TRIGGER FLINCH on these gals...
(I'm not criticizing, I'm not fond of that kind of bang, either.)

Don Williams said...

1) If you look at IDPA's Rule Book,page 28, you see that the minimum power floor allowed for 9mm like Glocks (Stock Service Pistol--SSP) is much lower (125,000) than what is allowed for 1911 45s (Custom Defensive Pistol --CDP) --165,000. Power is defined as momentum -- i.e., weight of bullet (grains) times velocity (feet per second).

http://www.idpa.com/Documents/IDPARuleBook2005.pdf

2) Yet even with much weaker recoil in SSPs, you are still given much longer times on the IDPA Classification Course of Fire with which to rank Master, Expert, etc with SSP Glocks than what is required for
CDP 1911 45s --see page 70.

This argues that the 1911 is a superior weapon.

3) Note, However, that magazine changes in the Course of Fire do not give credit to the SSP's larger magazine capacity.

But On the other hand, you need to fire 3 rounds of 9mm to gain the same permanent wound channel as what you get with only 2 rounds of 45 so you need that bigger magazine.



Tod said...

Sometimes, it really is a physical limitation of the shooter.

Blocky isn't really a problem.

However, my girlfriend's hands are so small, a Glock recoils through the second knuckle. (Look at your right thumb. Start at the nail--first knuckle, second knuckle.) She can't get any more of her hand around the gun than that.

So we got her a Walther PPQ that fits her perfectly. I'd love to have her handle a Lone Wolf Timerwolf frame to see if that is small enough for her, but haven't found one locally.

Shannon Baker said...

Tod,
Has she tried a Gen4 Glock? They are a little narrower than the previous gens. I also heard a rumor that there are some Gen3 models with smaller grips. The slimline or something. I heard it has about the same dimensions as the Gen4.
Just a suggestion.
-sbaker

Tod said...

Shannon- The Gen4 small backstrap is 2mm shorter than the Med or Gen3. I don't think that's going to make any difference.

We're actually pretty happy with the PPQ and prefer the level-style magazine release. I do wish someone made an adjustable sight for it that didn't have a rear notch that was so huge.

The standard sights, Trijicon and Meprolights all have a huge rear notch. Dawson Precision is making a rear sight that may have a smaller (standard) notch, but it's a push sight, instead of a standard (for PPQ/P99) rear sight.

Thanks,
Tod