EN said...Just my take from examining gunshot wounds, but there's no such thing as a magic pistol bullet. Gaining compliance with pistol bullets isn't easy and against multiple assailants the highest capacity mag may not be close to enough and you're likely going to need a second mag.
The twelve gauge is magic at pistol ranges, even with skeet loads, and five or six rds is good against multiple assailants, assuming you get hits. And any rifle is more likely to get hits over any pistol. Pistols are notoriously inaccurate when someone's shooting back at you.
Everyone needs to make their own choices on this, and God bless you all whatever you choose. For me it's the shotgun with #7 Shot, and a pistol in .45 (make and model depends on how I'm feeling). I live in a wood frame house with neighbors at 180 degrees. At 12 ft no one shot with a 12 gauge will notice the difference between 00 Buck and #7 shot.
As for guns going off in houses, I sleep with my weapons and Impact amplified hearing protection beside my bed... which has led to some interesting conversations with "guests". If I need to use any weapon I'll try and put them on, along with eye protection. I've seen the results of wood splinters in eyes from shootings. I have no date but I would bet that we're far more likely to get hit with splinters than bullets in a pistol fight.
Friday, December 17, 2010
Ear Muffs and Headsets
5 comments:
- hamyheadmp said...
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Just a couple of notes. one, forget the ear plugs. You need sound as there may be something that you need to hear such as the second or third intruder. Second, shoot center mass, practice. Third you probally wont hear the shot or at least it will be deminished. in situations like that most remember the shots being muffled. Train with your family, its important. mwp
- December 17, 2010 at 8:59 PM
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It's anecdotal, but the BOT says birdshot is for birds, not SD. People get shot with this stuff all the time and live.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm - December 17, 2010 at 10:39 PM
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"At 12 ft no one shot with a 12 gauge will notice the difference between 00 Buck and #7 shot."
WRONG WRONG WRONG! Shot penetration is highly dependent on the mass of the individual shot. Birdshot is for birds - each shot acts as it's own projectile and will not penetrate to the FBI minimum of 12". A load of birdshot will NOT act together as a solid mass and hence tend to produce a broad but shallow wound.
Anything that won't penetrate walls won't penetrate bad guys either.
Here's a link with more information:
http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=176 - December 18, 2010 at 7:12 AM
- Ryan said...
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EN, Under .50BMG there just isn't such a thing as a magic bullet period. The issue with birdshot is that it is designed to kill little birds. At point blank range it is very effective, then again at point blank range a framing hammer is very effective. As for range I would personally look at the longest line of sight in your home. Birdshot is very effective at 4 feet (so is a Samuria sword) but what about the 35 foot hallway, not so much.
Penetration is kind of a double edged sword. You need about 8 inches of penetration to get to the kind of vital stuff which stops a person. If there is a bullet that can penetrate that much through flesh and bone but somehow knows not to go through sheetrock, furniture and wood I
haven't heard of it. - December 18, 2010 at 7:24 AM
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Very interesting story yesterday of a man using both pistol & shotgun to defend his wife, himself, his store:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40713870/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts - December 18, 2010 at 10:20 AM