Sunday, February 3, 2013

Gun Control Tactics Used in Argentina

Hi Fernando,
Thought you might find this short article of interest, and if you could share any info about gun grabbing tactics you experienced while in Argentina.  Thank you for what you do.  I have your book and have read it several times over. So much so it’s falling apart. It is a reference for me.  I have read several other survival/preparedness books, but definitely find yours the most useful.  I visited your youtube channel yesterday.  I like it.
Joe in Missouri
Thanks Joe, glad you found my book useful.
Seems there’s a double standard going on.  How come David Gregory gets away with having those same AR magazines but this guy gets arrested? I guess that if you break the law openly on national TV, then its ok as long as you have an anti-gun agenda, but if you have those exact same AR magazines while minding your own business then you get arrested.
Guns to be “destroyed” by RENAR in Argentina

The gun grabbing tactics used in Argentina are similar in many ways to those used in USA. Namely a very strong anti-gun media campaign, on all levels. In Argentina the slogan shoved down people’s throat was  “if you have a gun, you have a problem”. It was pretty effective too, catchy. My wife used to make fun of me whenever we saw it on TV, “You heard that? We have a lot of problems!” We already had mandatory gun registration (try to avoid having that in USA!) and people were harassed regarding how many guns they had and the conditions they were stored in. The anti-gun campaign was strongly supported by so called NGOs that sympathized with the government and were funded by them.

Buybacks took place on several occasions, and these presented a series of problems.

1)Completely useless guns, sometimes just broken air guns, were being “bought back”. Criminals would take advantage of this to finance a new gun!

2)Criminals caught with a firearm could say they were taking the gun to be bought back and destroyed. This loophole basically allowed people that were not registered to walk around with a gun, while lawful gun owners weren’t allowed to use that same excuse if caught carrying illegaly!

3) In many cases, guns that had been used in crimes had been turned in by the criminals themselves. They got the evidence against them destroyed and 100usd in their pocket for their effort.

4)Some of the nicer guns turned in seemed to have a peculiar condition by which they disappeared, respawning a few days later in a nearby gunstore’s shelf with a price tag attached to it.

5)A couple years after the buyback, thousands of guns that for some reason hadn’t been destroyed as they were supposed to were “lost” or “stolen”. They are just unaccounted for, in many cases ironically making their way from law abiding citizens that believed the “you have a gun, you have a problem” campaign, straight into the hands of the criminals that will use those same guns against the people that gave them up. On January 9th, 2013, 200 of the best weapons obtained through buybacks have been misplaced from the shops in which they were supposed to be destroyed. This includes high end pistols and a few machine guns (SMGs) that have now made their way to the hands of criminals thanks to the buyback program.

Even without taking into account the “lost” guns, the buyback is mostly considered to be a failure, this report clearly shows that other than reducing the number of accidents, it helps criminals rather than stops them.

In the last years the controls for getting a firearm license and renewing it had increased considerably. The psychological test was increasingly difficult and without an explanation a lot of people were failing it, in some cases people I knew pretty well and clearly didn’t have any condition that should stop them from owning guns.


Anonymous said...

Ferfalt-I tried to email this but it did not work. Unrelated Question:
You always give great advice, so here's a question I have not seen addressed in your book, or on your website; tell me what you think:

Question: Should I invest in copper bullion. You read that right...copper bullion. I know what you are thinking - copper is not a precious metal - it is an industrial metal.

Here is the background for my question: The Lakotah Confederation of Indian tribes in the USA have their own currency - the 1oz copper coin. These cost about $1.50 USD each. Copper will always be in demand, and for a low value, low denomination exchange of value, copper looks like it can't be beat.

Yes, if you have thousands to invest, go for gold or silver. But if you only have $20.00 USD at at time to invest, or you are looking for a day-to-day replacement for the USD or EURO dollar - why not copper coins?

--More on the Lakotah Tribe:

--More on their 'official' currency:

Ferfal, your thoughts?

k said...

One form of registration is a back ground check. With it, the government would know who is very interested in getting a gun, and if that person passed the test, the government would know that person is a likely owner of a firearm and ammunition. Such a person could expect to pay more for insurance in the future under Obamacare and, if he offends the wrong person or group, a midnight visit by local or federal goons.

OttoMann said...

Hi Ferfal!

Just read this story on ZeroHedge - it looks like things are getting worse for Argentina :

If I remember correctly we had something similar in place in Yugoslavia (and with out foreign or private retail stores) - the government regulated (fixed) the price for a certain kind and quantity of bread the shops were selling. They had to sell cca. 1/3 of this bread at lower (not inflation affected prices - prices the government set in advance, regardless of real inflation or even real costs).
At the time one of our relatives, who didn't live in Yugoslavia was staying on a short visit and he was (in contrast to us) shocked and almost scared.
While we believed things will now slowly normalize, he was trying to explain that this is a clear sign, that the government is trying to combat the EFFECTS of inflation and not the ORIGINS (either because things are so bad they are out of their control or the government it self is cosing rampant inflation through money printing which it simply refuses to stop)and therefore is doomed to failure.
We didn't believe him (of course - cheap bread is good for our family budget, and what is wrong with that), but in the end he was proved right, but not before things got much worse.

The whole deal with "price frozen" bread was a terrible sham - individual people would buy all the bread at once in the morning, leaving only "inflation" bread for other shoppers - so fights over bread broke out in some shops. Shops refused to sell, bakeries were reluctant to bake it (as they had to do so at a loss), and there was an scandal when it came out that some farmers regularly bought all this cheaper bread and fed it (still fresh from the shop)to their animals.