Monday, September 15, 2014

The Core Concept Behind the Assault on Your Freedom

(Very good contributing article by Jim V. Thanks Jim for sharing!- FerFAL)

“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
- Club of Rome, 1993

In 1894, the Times of London estimated that in under 60 years, every street in the city would be buried nine feet deep in horse manure. Similarly, a New York prognosticator in the 1890s predicted by 1930 the citizens of that no-so-fair city would see that selfsame horse excrement rise three stories high if nothing were done. Neither the Times nor the New York diviners had computer models, but undoubtedly, if they had, given their underlying assumptions, the conclusion would have been the same. Garbage in, garbage out, as the programmers say.
Linear predictions such as the above were first formalized by the Rev. Thomas Malthus (1776–1834) who noted that population is not always immediately limited by food and energy, writing in his 1798 An Essay on the Principle of Population, that "The power of population is indefinitely greater than the power in the earth to produce subsistence for man" and that “That the superior power of population is repressed, and the actual population kept equal to the means of subsistence, by (the mechanisms of) misery and vice.” Malthus’ writings need much more nuance for the scholar reading this, of course, but in short, the crux of the issue was the well-known quote that human population increases geometrically, while food supply is only able to increase arithmetically. Thus, if population is left unchecked, misery, starvation and death will result. And in large part, much of what you see today in the socio-political realm, is built around this one basic presupposition. To illustrate the point, bear with me as I cite a large number of well-known leaders and groups who parrot the exact philosophy of Malthus, only in more modern garb. Scan or skip the quotes as you need, but my purpose in providing the quantity of citations is to illustrate just how well entrenched this philosophy is throughout our culture.

- “The present vast overpopulation, now far beyond the world carrying capacity, cannot be answered by future reductions in the birth rate due to contraception, sterilization and abortion, but must be met in the present by the reduction of numbers presently existing. This must be done by whatever means necessary.” Initiative for the United Nations ECO-92 Earth Charter (of course the authors of this are excepted, presumably)

- “A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. Treating only the symptoms of cancer may make the victim more comfortable at first, but eventually he dies—often horribly. A similar fate awaits a world with a population explosion if only the symptoms are treated. We must shift our efforts from treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions. The pain may be intense. But the disease is so far advanced that only with radical surgery does the patient have a chance of survival.” Stanford Professor Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb. Ehrlich is a former 1970s global cooling fanatic, which demanded development and population restrictions, who a few decades later converted to global warming fanatic, which also requires population restrictions. Ehrlich predicted the world would come to a catastrophic denouement from global cooling in the 1970s – but of course he has now converted the mechanism for our destruction to global warming. Whatever fits the narrative.
- “We have to take away from humans in the long run their reproductive autonomy as the only way to guarantee the advancement of mankind.” Francis Crick, discoverer of the double-helix structure of DNA
- “One America burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say in order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it’s just as bad not to say it.” Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier (Jacques, of course, with all his globe-trotting, was equivalent a zillion Bangladeshes –though only half as bad as Obama’s regular vacations - but as Orwell warned us, in the socialist paradise, some of us will be “more equal” than the others.)

- “A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible.” United Nations, Global Biodiversity Assessment

- “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline would be ideal.” Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major United Nations contributor. (Ted…. are you volunteering to “check out” first?)

- Noted professor Eric Pianka declared that the Earth would be better off if nine out of 10 people were to die. “The Earth’s population is growing,” said Eric Pianka of the University of Texas, who was named the 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist by the Texas Academy of Science. “We will see a point when we reach the carrying capacity – there aren’t enough resources.” Pianka believes the planet’s current population of 6.5 billion is much too high, and 700 million would be the ideal number. He says people are turning the Earth into “fat, human biomass” and leaving the planet “parched,” as the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons quoted him as saying. According to Pianka, the most likely instrument for killing 90 percent of the Earth’s human population is the Ebola virus, after it evolves the capacity for airborne transmission: “War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world’s population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. We’ve got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. You know, the bird flu’s good, too. For everyone who survives, he will have to bury nine.” As with Mr. Turner, there are no reports that Dr. Pianka is volunteering to help out the situation by going first.

- Finnish writer Pentti Linkola is the classic uber-greenie, who wants to reduce Earth’s population to 500 million and abandon modern technology (presumably he is getting his message out via smoke signals) who wrote: “What to do, when a ship carrying a hundred passengers suddenly capsizes and there is only one lifeboat? When the lifeboat is full, those who hate life will try to load it with more people and sink the lot. Those who love and respect life will take the ship’s axe and sever the extra hands that cling to the sides.” And of course, America is the core of the problem: “The United States symbolises the worst ideologies in the world: growth and freedom” Adds Linkola, and “Any dictatorship would be better than modern democracy. There cannot be so incompetent a dictator that he would show more stupidity than a majority of the people. The best dictatorship would be one where lots of heads would roll and where government would prevent any economic growth. We will have to learn from the history of revolutionary movements — the national socialists (Nazis), the Finnish Stalinists, from the many stages of the Russian revolution, from the methods of the Red Brigades — and forget our narcissistic selves.” Linkola has also publicly called for climate change deniers be “re-educated” in eco-gulags and that the vast majority of humans be killed, with the rest enslaved and controlled by a green police state, with people forcibly sterilized, cars confiscated and travel restricted to members of the elite (what? You expected the leftist elite to eat their own cooking?) No word from Linkola as to who will control the controllers, of course. A fellow Finnish environmentalist writer, Martin Kreiggeist, hails Linkola’s call for eco-gulags and oppression as “a solution,” calling for people to “take up the axes” in pursuit of killing off the third world. Kreiggeist wants fellow eco-fascists to “act on” Linkola’s call for mass murder in order to solve overpopulation. Linkola and Kreiggeist come from a long line of those that would just that! The Black Book of Communism, by Courtois, et al, says various flavor of the left murdered 100 million last century, while Dr. RJ Rummel, Univ. of Hawaii, puts the number as high as 160 million (the vast majority murdered by the left). See his web site at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/PERSONAL.HTM or take the time to review his magnum opus, Death by Government, which provides details on how he came up with his numbers.

- “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.” Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Leader of the World Wildlife Fund
“Malthus has been vindicated; reality is finally catching up with Malthus. The Third World is overpopulated, it’s an economic mess, and there’s no way they could get out of it with this fast-growing population. Our philosophy is: back to the village.” Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation.
- “There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it….” and “Our program in El Salvador didn’t work. The infrastructure was not there to support it. There were just too goddamned many people…. To really reduce population, quickly, you have to pull all the males into the fighting and you have to kill significant numbers of fertile age females….” The quickest way to reduce population is through famine, like in Africa, or through disease like the Black Death….” Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs. “Too many goddamed people.” I think that expresses your sentiments perfectly, Mr. Ferguson. (“Godammed people” pretty much sums up the whole issue, but again, Mr. Ferguson probably doesn’t consider himself “people” – he is undoubtedly special.)
- “Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries”. Dr. Henry Kissinger. Kissinger also noted “The world’s population needs to be reduced by 50%,” and “The elderly are useless eaters” Kissinger is 91 – but no word yet if he plans to “check out” early. Y’know… just to do his part and all
- “Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
-Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Nope, no word from the leftist media on this racist comment. And never will be, either.
“The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.” Obama’s science czar John P. Holdren, cited from Ecoscience. Holdren is a current global warmer cult leader – while in the 1970s, he joined Ehrlich as a fanatic global cooling alarmist. Any mechanism to control the population, you know!
- “It is easier to kill a million people rather than trying to control a million people… people are fighting back…our capacity to impose control over humanity is at an historical low…”
Zbignew Brzezinsi

- As just one final example of hundreds of quotes I could have included, the Club of Rome in 1993 stated in their The First Global Revolution, downloadable at http://www.scribd.com/doc/2297152/Alexander-King-Bertrand-Schneider-The-First-Global-Revolution-Club-of-Rome-1993-Edition that “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is mankind.” “Came up with the idea”… as opposed to “the facts led us to the conclusion.”

The fact of the matter is, as Robert Zubrin observed, to the today’s Malthusians, “… each new life is unwelcome, each unregulated thought or act is menace, every person is fundamentally the enemy of every other person, and each race or nation is the enemy of every other race or nation.” Yes, we are back to the disproved socialist assumption that life and economics are a zero sum game, but this assumption is not up for debate – at least among the powers that be (and for those of you who think of Thomas Kuhn’s famed book The Structure of Scientific Revolution, which deals with how intellectuals become victims of group think just as easily as your local “Yes we can” chanters, you are exactly right). And it is not just your life that is unwelcome, but your financial status as well, until you not-so-mercifully decide - or it is decided for you- to put off this mortal coil. The economic side of the matter is put most clearly by the World Wildlife Fund Living Plant Report of 2012, which Lewis Page summarizes in the May 16, 2012 edition of the Register that “economic growth should be abandoned, (and) citizens of the world’s wealthy nations should prepare for poverty.” Individual rights are verboten, of course, given the Malthusian threat to the earth. As Harvey Ruvin, Vice-chair of International Committee for Local Environment Initiatives (ICLEI), a group that wants to impose the green agenda on everyone has noted, “Individual rights must take a back seat to the collective.” Pol Pot, move over… but please do not concern yourself that Obama and his cronies might have their tee times or uber-luxe vacations impacted.

Perhaps the best known antecedent of the ideas quoted above comes from the National Socialist (Nazi) T4 euthanasia programme, run by Hitler’s doctor, Karl Brandt. As early as 1929 Hitler proposed 700,000 of the weakest Germans be “removed” per year. By Aug. 1939, every doctor and midwife was notified they must register all children born with genetic defects, retroactive to 1936. The doomed were to “give their lives for the greater cause.” Nazis used injections; then later - being the ever-efficient National Socialists they were - used carbon monoxide. They would then send a letter to the parents, telling them that their child was dead (hey, it depends on what the definition of “was” was, right?) from pneumonia, and already cremated.
As you know, those responsible for the T4 programme were condemned and punished at the Nuremburg Trials after World War II. Importantly, ignorance or “just following orders” was not an excuse during these court proceedings. Most interestingly, individuals like Kissinger were with the Allied army as they fought Germany during this time, and should have zero excuse. Yet today, the Nazi wannabes are back at. For example, Drs. Francesca Minerva and Alberto Giubilini just published an article in a respected, academic journal about “after birth abortion” (sic) in the Journal of Medical Ethics (see http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/03/01/medethics-2011-100411.short ), while Dr. Peter Singer of Yale believes that children should be able to be killed up to two years old (yet all the while he refuses to euthanize his elderly mother, who is horribly incapacitated with Alzheimers). It is, as the philosopher/theologian Os Guinness once noted, that “while all philosophies are arguable; not all are livable.”
You are now aware of the impact of Malthusian philosophy on population and resources, and have a general idea of who and what is behind it – which is pretty much the bulk of Hollywood, academia, the lamestream media, Al Gore and his acolytes, Agenda 21 types, and your Hilary-esque political, social and economic betters. You may have also surmised, correctly, that this Malthusian presupposition is going to directly impact you, your health, your wealth, your family, and your now nasty, short and brutish life.
Here we come to the crux of this article. Is the Malthusian assumption actually valid? Or is it just one of those faux truisms accepted by a culture for generations, such as the thinking that Chinese girls’ feet should always be bound, or the Boston Red Sox could never win the World Series after they traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. Has anyone actually conducted a real life, boots-on-the-ground examination of the Malthusian assumptions?
As a matter of fact, someone has. But before we go there, a few preliminaries. Were you aware that between 30 and 50 percent of all food produced globally, equivalent to two billion tons, is thrown away each year according to a recent report written by the UK-based Institution of Mechanical Engineers (IME), titled ‘Global Food; Waste Not, Want Not’, found at http://www.imeche.org/Libraries/Reports/IMechE_Global_Food_Report.sflb.ashx? The problem is not with production, it is with distribution. Might I suggest that before we ponder throwing away human lives, as per Dr. Pianka above, we start by making sure food isn’t thrown away? Similarly, were you aware that three times the current population of the world could fit in the state of Oklahoma, which has an area of 69,903 square miles? In this case, one square mile will accommodate 278,784 people if each person were allowed 100 square feet. At that rate the state of Oklahoma could accommodate a 19.49 billion people— almost three times the earth’s current population of 6.4 billion – with the entire acreage of the US left over to farm, hike, populate with office buildings, put solar panels on, etc. The highly quoted scientist, and author of The Skeptical Environmentalist's Guide to Global Warming, Bjorn Lomborg, takes the issue of trash under the same microscope, noting that the entire waste produced by the United States in the 21st century could fit into a square 100 feet thick and 28 km along each side, or 0.009% of the total surface of the United States
Lomborg also considers pollution from different angles. He notes that air pollution in wealthy nations has steadily decreased in recent decades, and finds that air pollution levels are highly linked to economic development, with the less developed countries polluting most. Again, Lomborg argues that faster growth in emerging countries would help them reduce their air pollution levels, and suggests that devoting resources to reduce the levels of specific air pollutants would provide the greatest health benefits and save the largest number of lives (per amount of money spent), continuing an already decades-long improvement in air quality in most developed countries. Similarly concerning water pollution, Lomborg notes again that this is connected with economic progress – not bumping off people, as the ignorant Georgia Guidestones imply (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones)
Some will erroneously conflate being profligate, ignorant, wasteful with those who disagree with the Malthusians. That is an utterly gross misunderstanding of the issue. The point is that human life brings with it not just resource consumption, but intelligence, which is the key point in the whole debate. Going back to the horse manure issue in London, human intelligence brought about the invention of the automobile, which solved the manure issue. If the mad doctor Pianka had been around then, perhaps Henry Ford would have been intentionally bumped off by the Spanish flu before he got his auto industry in gear. Ah, but the car has created problems the Malthusian will say. And of course, the simple rejoinder is that the next step to resolve the issues brought about by the car are under way. The catalytic converter has already solved a certain percentage of the smog problem, though obviously more needs to be done. In fact, that “more to be done” is already under way. The very day this article began to be composed, a new paper in Science, reported at www.phys.org, how University of Glasgow scientists have taken a major step forward in the production of hydrogen from water, using solar powered electrolysis to break the bonds between hydrogen and oxygen, the constituents of water (see article at http://phys.org/news/2014-09-hydrogen-production-breakthrough-herald-cheap.html ). Dr. Dan Nocera of MIT has a similar new product, marketed by SunCatalytix, which he explains at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTtmU2lD97o. The issue is, the Univ. of Glasgow scientists and Dr. Nocera may never have come into existence were it for the Malthusians, and in fact, if the Malthusians had their way, horse poop might well actually be 9 feet high in London now – though of course, they presumably would have killed off much of the population to prevent the problem. The real problem is not the number of people, but rather the corruption of law, politics (yes, Harry Reid, we are looking at you!), distribution processes (which are most efficiently left to Adam Smith-style private initiative, not USSR-style central planning), the slowing of patent granting (of which I have personal experience), socialism-caused poverty, and more. The problem is not population, per se.
We now come to the piece de resistance about the Malthusian misunderstanding, which it is found in the famed Julian Simon/Paul Ehrlich wager - essentially a wager between whether Malthus was right, or if the ingenuity of man is more significant. Simon’s point was that “The most important benefit of population size and growth is the increase it brings to the stock of useful knowledge. Minds matter economically as much as, or more than, hands or mouths.” Simon bet the then catastrophic global coolers – who are now catastrophic global warmers - Paul Ehrlich and John Holdren in 1980 that the price of chromium, copper, nickel, tin, and tungsten would go down, not up, by Sept. 29, 1990. In fact, all five commodities – which Ehrlich selected - went down by the targeted date. In Oct. 1990, Ehrlich mailed Julian Simon a cheque for $576.07 to settle the wager. No word if current unelected Obama science czar Holdren chipped in any dough or not. But – as the last refuge of scientific (or economic) scoundrels – of course they trot out the old “this time will be different,” and the Malthusians, in the form of Agenda 21ers, etc. still remain in their cult-like trance. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager for the Wikipedia summary of the Simon/Ehrlich wager.
The key point of this paper, which the Malthusians who deign to run your life based on their faulty assumptions miss, is that scarcity is mitigated by human intelligence and creativity. Horse poop doesn’t grow up to the trees in downtown NY or London, without some brainiac coming up with a novel solution. I will admit, however that horse apples do, apparently, grow up to the trees and beyond in the halls of academia or some bought-and-paid-for politician in Washington or Brussels.
It is true, as Orwell once noted, that “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” Malthusianism is one that is at the top of the list.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just excellent. Reminds me of the fear that civilization will collapse when petroleum runs out. Just like the panic when the whales were being killed off and we were going to run out of whale oil, which ran the machinery and lighting at the time...

Anonymous said...

Those are some scary quotes from well-known names. Too many people in charge are so frighteningly insane, it's tempting to ignore the news around us.

I'd rather watch football than deal with the various nutball fanatics who want to kill those who aren't green enough, Muslim enough, anti-Capitalist, etc.

It's particularly unpleasant how many of those quotes were from scientists (who may have access to research labs) praying for a plague on the human race.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the post. A good brief on the Green Movement. The post brought back memories of 70's class in U.W. state school that was a required class, "Man and the Environment". We classmates were so full of optimism entering the lecture room. All full of environmental ideas to save the world. This Professor wouldn't have any of it. He always constrained thinking to the futile per over population. This guy was dead and depressing. We needed to enjoy ourselves per sin, but only if promising not to have kids. People the problem. Also, he claimed we would be out of crude oil within 20 years and after that event, mass chaos. That twenty years and the next twenty gone as well. Today we have more oil reserves then when he first made the statement. The class was worthless as well as the prof. What is wrong with our colleges? I can only image the current required classes per environmental concern.

Don Williams said...

1) The author of the article provides NO EVIDENCE that the Earth can support 7 billion people indefinitely -- much less 10 billion. He simply makes a religious argument -- a statement of faith the the God Science will provide before catastrophe strikes.

2) Who wants America to become as overcrowded as India? You get fascism when you have overpopulation and people place security, suppression of social unrest, and avoidance of the ensuing famine at a higher priority than freedom.

3) It is no accident that the Nazis came to power in overpopulated Germany --after 1 million+ Germans and Austians were starved to death in WWI by the British blockade. Or that it was Germany that developed the Haber synthetic fertizer process on which roughly 40% of the world's population now depends.
4) And the author takes no notice of the massive numbers of animals that have died due to loss of habitat. The large numbers of species which have disappeared forever. The Bible tells us to be stewards of the Earth --not to take a crap on Nature.

Anonymous said...

Don,
The article baseline argument, is people are not the problem. People can solve problems, even controlling population with freedom intact. Socialist, Communist, and Fascist have a horrible track record per humanity and environmentalism.

Don Williams said...

People ARE the problem. When food gets short from overcrowding they get desperate and you get dictatorial government and after that war. You get 24 million Russians, 8 million Germans and 15 million Chinese killed in WWII.

Not only the USA --but the world depends upon the US Midwest grain harvest that in turn depends upon irrigation from deep wells sunk into the Ogallala Aquifer.

That Aquifer was created millions of years ago and current low rainfall is not enough to replenish it. It is shrinking -- and when it runs out in 2040 we will be back to the Dust Bowl of the 1930s.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/12/how-long-before-the-midwest-runs-out-of-water/

Civilizations die. Look at the Anasazi ruins in New Mexico , the
Harappan civilization in Pakistan, and Egypt's Old Kingdom for examples of what happens when the climate changes and long droughts hit overpopulated regions.

Don Williams said...

And the people who panic most when famine threatens overpopulated areas are the wealthy oligarchs who rule us.

They know how vulnerable their wealth , power and lives are if food riots start. Starting a war on some pretense is the traditional method for handling surplus population -- and allows the creation of an army to suppress the rabble if enough of them aren't killed off on the battlefield.

Anonymous said...

Okay, Don can speak for the Malthusian side of the debate.

You say that people are the problem, Don. What is your proposed solution? A one child policy? Euthanasia? Space exploration?

Don Williams said...

1) Global population was 2.5 billion in 1950 -- it then exploded to the 7 billion today.
The greatest increase occurred in Asia -- from 1.4 billion to 4.3 billion.

2) This population explosion was largely the result of the "Green Revolution" unthinkingly created by Norman Borlaug, the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation. With no consideration whatsoever for the loyalty they owed to the American People.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution

3) Because they provided the technology without any measures to restrain birthrates, they
made the problem far worse. Monoculture that is highly vulnerable to disease mutations or
biowarfare. Agriculture that depends upon massive inputs from the petroleum industry at
a time when the oil is running out. Dependency upon hybrid seed from Monsanto.
Dependency upon chemical pesticides. A now massive population vulnerable to drought from climate change.

4) In my opinion, the USA should take strong measures to protect its borders and limit immigration. Our population is 315 million and it is questionable whether we can sustain more than 200 million in the long term. Asia should reduce its high populations by
government policies like high taxes imposed on a second or third child, easily-available
contraception, etc. History suggests that if population pressures are not held in check
by humane means, then they will be held in check by napalm, nukes, biowarfare and
chemical gases. Look at WWI and WWII.

5) We are in a lifeboat with nothing but the cold vacuum of space for at least several light
years in all directions. Mars will not support human population to any extent with our current technology.

The burden is on advocates of high population to explain how 7 billion people will be fed
over the next 100 years as nonrenewable resources run out -- and not to evade that burden by expressing a religious faith that their God Science will somehow provide.

Sometimes Malthus has been wrong -- and sometimes he has been right. Look at the Irish Potato famine in wealthy Victorian Britain.

TheModernSurvivalist said...

Come on Don...
Malthus? The guy said the world would end due to overpopulation in 1890 and said we should kill poor people.
There's enough food today to feed everyone if we just stop wasting it. There's enough being produced TODAY to feed 2x the current population if we stop throwing food away and stop feeding grains to cattle and consume the grains ourselves, which by the way would be healtheir anyway.

TheModernSurvivalist said...

Oh, and the "Potato Famine", more like "Potato Genocide".

Don Williams said...

1) Besides the Irish Potato Famine there was also the Soviet Famine of 1932-33. In the Ukraine it was known as the Holodomor but it affected other large areas of the Soviet Union as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

2) Modern agriculture has increased production greatly due to petroleum inputs --but what happens when the oil runs out? Peak oil is projected circa 2020.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil#Agricultural_effects_and_population_limits

3)An early sign:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%9308_world_food_price_crisis

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, Don, as the author of the article, I think you mis-read the main thesis. First, I am agnostic as to extent of population growth - i.e., it is simply not the central point. My main point was primarily the Simon/Ehrlich wager, which you studiously ignored - and is central to the whole article. But, speaking of "religion," I certainly am NOT agnostic on the green fascism, which is just Nazism dressed in green shirts instead of brown shirts. Is it not enough that you leftists murdered over 100 *million* last century? Moreover, you have your own religion. Specifically, religion is anything that tells us where we came from, why we are here, and where we are going. By any stretch, what I read as your green religion meets that criteria. And it is an anti-human one to put it mildly.

You speak, e.g., about water. As noted in the article, if you misread this work to see it as something encouraging profligacy with resources, then I really cannot help you, relative to your ability to read. But let's look at water: I discussed one prof from MIT who might be able to create energy from ANY water. That means desalination. Another alternative, presented by the former premier of Quebec would be to put dikes at the mouth of James Bay, which is fed by massive amounts of fresh water rivers. This would create a fresh water bay, and this MASSIVE amount of water could be then piped to the Southwest. Or, perhaps we will make advancements in the use or thorium for energy, which would provide virtually unlimted power. Or what if we make quantum leaps in solar power efficiency? Or something completely off the radar at present?

I am afraid you mis-read the main thesis of the article. But I will tell you this: Freedom lovers are fully aware of the Agenda 21 leftists and their Nazi-like control for world domination. Your socialism has killed people and destroyed economies since the days or Robespierre, up to today's Argentina, Venezuela, and yes, the now $20 freaking TRILLION dollars spent in the War on Poverty, which turned 50 - and has resulted in 48 MILLION on food stamps, and cities like Detroit (which was the first city to adopt the socialist Model Cities programme... yet after each failure, your types say "Well, they didn't do it right, but next time we will." The good on' manana /"the cheques's in the mail" scam.

No, we aren't buying it. We don't buy your *religion* of humanism, or the Cult of Al Gore (and BTW, I would LOVE to cross pen-swords with you on THAT scam! I have a 400 page paper with over 700 footnotes any time you are ready for that).

I will repeat: I am NOT advocating profligacy. My only point is that it appears Malthusianism is a cult - and one that refuses to look at scientific fact. I would encourage you to review your presuppositions.

Anonymous said...

PS - the potato blight is a bad example. Bad things to happen. A better example, if you go down that route, is the Black Plague, or - even worse - the fact that, per Dr. RJ Rummel of Univ. of Hawaii, 160 MILLION were murdered by the left last century (google him for your own reference). Nor is science a "god." It is merely a tool. But the key point is that, whether you wish to call it God or not, there always appears to be an equilibrium long term where human creativity - IF left unbridled by the left -comes up with creative . Too bad the left has to routinely destroy the very thing that provides the greatest good for the most people. Just visit Ferfal's Argentina or socialist created Detroit if you need oome boots on the ground evidence.

Don Williams said...

The American Southwest is facing severe water shortages due to a prolonged drought -- and it could get much worse if the drought continues. The huge Lake Mead --which supplies water to sustain Las Vegas and southern California -- is at its lowest level since 1937. When the level drops below the water intakes, it is functionally dry.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11094232/Super-rich-make-last-stand-against-California-drought.html

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/aug/20/lake-mead-levels-not-just-vegas-problem/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/26/lake-mead-falling-in-sign-of-drought/13079009/

TheModernSurvivalist said...

Holdomor and the Potato famine, both were genocides.Ukranian farmers had their crops stolen and banned from escaping the territroy by the Soviets, the Irish where masacred in a similar way, the blight was a problem only because the food was being exported out of Ireland at record numbers. Basically they were starved to death by the English elite.

Don Williams said...

1) The 1932-33 Soviet famine did not just hit Ukraine -- it hit large areas of the Soviet Union as well (Kazakhstan,etc) and would have hit Soviet cities as well if the food had not been confiscated from the farmers.

2) Yes, the famine was partly due to the incompetence of Stalin -- and probably to his cruelty as well. And there was no excuse for wealthy, peacetime Victorian England letting Ireland starve.

3) But thinking that our 7 billion population will be watched over, protected and fed by humane, competent overlords in government in the future is even more of a stretch than thinking we will be rescued by miracles from Science.

4) Ad hominem insults re leftists, fascists, etc simply ignore an honest discussion of what is in the best interest of the People of the United States. Borlaug and the Ford Foundation encouraging a massive explosion of population growth in Asia was not to the benefit of their fellow Americans. We have no obligation to rescue the people of foreign countries from their stupidity and irresponsibility.

5) Yes -- Americans here in the US are blessed with many resources. The result --I might note -- of the badly flawed immigration and defense policies of the original inhabitants. Who no longer exist.

Don Williams said...

Risk of Future Famine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine#Risk_of_future_famine

Famine today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine#Famine_today

Don Williams said...

The whole point of Ferfal's first book is that when an economy declines, large masses of desperate , dependent people can become dangerous enemies. Yes, good people, humane values and kindness abide to some extent. But those morals are an unaffordable luxury to a father with hungery children.

Again: we are in a lifeboat. And there is nothing but absolute cold and vacuum for light years in all directions.

Anonymous said...

54Maybe Americans should trade their green lawns for vegetable gardens? Suburban developments with the lawns use more fertilizer and water resources which would be better used for food production.

"But history offers a glimmer of hope in the midst of this darkness...The more profound truth is that violence rarely has the final word." USATODAY - Christianity will live on in Iraq by David Skeel