Wednesday, April 10, 2019

Problems with the Glock 19

Hello Fernando.

I am your subscriber for a few years now. I enjoy your videos and really grateful that you share your experience.

I think I started watching your videos during sad events that took place in Ukraine in 2014 (with our peninsula being annexed, war in the eastern part of Ukraine, currency devaluation, etc.) I always hoped that I won't end up using valuable information gained from your videos, well, for obvious reasons. I wasn't really a fan of aforementioned events, so I moved to Canada.
So, with that being sad, I would like to share my story of buying my first firearm — a Glock, and a malfunction(!) which occurred the first time I was shooting my Glock.

But at first, allow me to share my shooting background. In Ukraine people are not allowed to possess a handgun, but since my father is in military, he always takes me to drills, where I can shoot firearms (Makarov's pistol, AK-74, PK machine gun, Dragunov's Sniper Rifle and even RPG-7). I shot few thousands rounds in my life, and I was relatively good at it. Nothing fancy, but I managed to hit my targets while having descent groupings. So when I came to Canada, I decided to buy a Glock19. It was my dream pistol since I, as a kid, saw it in a hollywood movie. I had a lot of arguments as to why I want specifically this pistol. You know all that arguments and you even have a video about it. Fast forward to my first experience with my new Glock19.

I shoot my first magazine with 10 cartridges and... I have a jam on my third shot. This is weird — I said to myself. And continued shooting. I had another jam in my first magazine. I was desperate and I did not understand what was happening. I though there's something wrong with my glock. I had malfunctions (failure to feed and jams) in approximately 30% of shots, which is definitely not normal.

I took it back to the store where I bought it and explained my situation. Store owner took my Glock and shot 40 cartridges with no issues whatsoever. And he told me that the problem might be in me. I smiled at him and left. You probably know where it's going now, right? That day I started browsing the internet and I learned a new term "Limp wristing". I could not believe that Glock can and probably WILL malfunction depending on how firm is your grip. I couldn't believe since police use it, military use it — surely sometimes people there are under stress, being shot at, or even injured — how the hell are they supposed to constantly control their grip? But still, it's a fact. Police use it, military use it. I never ever had an issue like that while firing Makarov's Pistol. I told my father about it — he was really surprised. As well as his colleagues in the army. How come the reliability of your pistol depends on you, not on your pistol?

Of course after I learned the cause of my troubles, analyzed and changed the pressure of my grip, I shot about 200 cartridges with no issue. I'm not selling my Glock, no. I will train with it, and keep shooting with it.

But still, I really can not believe that polymer framed pistols have this issue, especially, that Glock has it. Now I have this thought, that maybe CZ pistol (or similar with a steel frame) might be better for a person who is concerned with self-defense. Especially if it's a weak guy or a small woman.
I would really appreciate if you share any thoughts about this matter.
Thank you, Sergey
Hello Sergey,
Yes, limp wristing can be a problem, but its not just Glock, any auto pistol is likely to fail when allowed to move in the hand.
I cant say I ever had this problem. A good grip and maybe a little workout with dumbells will help you a lot.
Unless you have a specific weakening disability, you shouldn’t have any problem as long as you hold your gun firmly.
A good alternative for people that have this problem (for whatever reason) is a good revolver.

I suggest though that you work on holding your Glock 19 firmly, it really is a fine, reliable firearm. Hold it aligned with your forearm as shown in the pic below, and a good firm grip, as high as possible.

Fernando “FerFAL” Aguirre is the author of “The Modern Survival Manual: Surviving the Economic Collapse” and “Bugging Out and Relocating: When Staying is not an Option”


Mike Yukon said...

Limp-wrist can happen with most all auto's but will never be a problem when shooting a bad guy shooting at you!

Anonymous said...

I agree with the store owner. I have owned or shot over a dozen pistols, including Glocks (17,19,22,23,27), Bersa Thunder in 380 and .22 (the 380 is my favorite to shoot), S&W,Sig, Beretta and several Rugers. I never had a problem except with one type. Beretta 92. Jam every mag. My friend could shoot it all day long and never have one. Something about me just does not fit the 92. I shoot about 250 rounds monthly with some months over 1000 (classes). I love the 92, it just does not work for me.

taminator013 said...

I've never had that problem with any of my semis, but a friend of mine wanted a little pocket pistol and I let him shoot my Keltec P-32. He kept having problem as your article pointed out. I would run a couple magazines through it with nary a hiccup. Hand it back to my friend and the problems would start again. Took me a while to determine that he was limp-wristing. He had a lot better luck with my PPK. It appears that the higher weight of a steel frame negates a limp wrist quite a bit.........

Anonymous said...

...unless you are injured..

Anonymous said...

Intertesting. I have never heard about limp wristing. And I have never experienced it. My first shots from a pistol were from Glock 19 and no issue there.
Maybe I have firmer grip by nature (fired over 200 rounds in a "row" - with manual re-filling and re-loading; resulting in tired hands, a bit less accuracy, otherwise no issue), maybe just big hands.