Wednesday, April 21, 2010

Dirty War: Terrorism of State... but dont forget the other Terrorists

Don Williams said...Off topic , Ferfal, but what is the word in Buenos Aires re the sentencing just now of former President Reynaldo Bignone over acts in the Dirty War? 25 years for a 82 year old man seems kinda ..uh..redundant.

From http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/21/world/americas/21argentina.html?hp


Oh, they make such a big deal out of it. Yes, he’s a criminal. But as you say, he’s already half dead. Throw him in jail for all I care, but really, its not as if its going to change much. I’d rather see the ERP terrorists and Montoneros we now have in the government judged instead. These were hardocore Maoists of the most violent kind.
On the other hand yesterday we had an attempt carjack caught on tape, they caught the two bad guys, but the district attorney considered that there wasn’t enough proof and dismissed the case.
That’s the way it is here, criminals simply don’t go to jail.
About the junta, its just politics right now, its the communist’s revenge. What’ do I care if they put a 90 year old repressor in jail if they leave a 16 year old multiple time robber and murderer free on the streets.
But well, it’s the way this government rolls, the avengers of Mother of Plaza de Mayo. The “mothers” even have their own TV shows now on the public channel, were they say we have to honor and be proud of their “revolutionary” sons. Didn’t they kidnap and murder innocent people? What about the bombing of that kindergarten school, killing 20 kids only to get to the son of a cop? While there were torturers and innocent people disappeared, many of these guys were indeed terrorists and got what they disserved. The ERP (people’s revolutionary army) and Montoneros killed 1500 people, 600 of them civilians, including, women, children and babies.
Of course you’re not supposed to say this out loud here these days.

For anyone that can read Spanish, here's a list of attacks these "heros" are responsible for, including the bombing of numerous schools. 
http://www.bolsonweb.com.ar/diariobolson/detalle.php?id_noticia=9597


FerFAL

3 comments:

Don Williams said...

Thanks -- it's helpful to get the view of someone who lives in a country. Our New York Times here in the USA is not a very reliable source.

If Argentina finds some embarrassing memos from Henry Kissinger to Bignone, I would appreciate knowing of it. That has always been a somewhat murky part of our history.

Anonymous said...

Two points:

1. There's a reason so many torturers went unpunished after the Dirty War...maybe lots of people thought what they did was necessary when faced with the communists' methods. Which is a good reason to avoid both torture and terrorism: they both screw up your country for generations, so even if you win, you lose.

2. Rescuing Pa Ingalls...my wife reads the Little House books to my daughters, and I think there's a mistake here. The idea you're conveying when you say "living like the Ingalls" is totally correct: you can't just quit your job and scrape your living from the dirt in the middle of nowhere. But that's not what the Ingalls did at all. In Pa Ingalls's situation, the most lucrative "job" available was heading out to the prairie and hunting (for food and trading abundant furs for supplies to build and maintain his household); meanwhile, they were using farming as a supplement and to establish title to the 160 acres of land--a substantial investment--under the Homestead Act. This setup was far and away better than the jobs available in Wisconsin (sparse hunting and pickup carpentry).

Now, this setup didn't work out (their title was declared invalid when civilization finally caught up), but IMO "living like the Ingalls" is exactly what you've been suggesting all along: use your head and your talents to build up a solid base of capital, follow the good jobs, learn as much as you can to do for yourself what you can do for less, be ready to leave when circumstances demand it, etc. So there's my two pesos.

Louis said...

Well i think there is no difference with this affair and this other one. U.S goverment did the same.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/03/23/former-nazi-hit-man-gets-life-in-prison-for-wwii-murders/