Wednesday, September 30, 2009


Kyle said...
Hi FerFAL,

I graduated from college in 1998 and spent a few months in early 1999 backpacking around Europe. There were hoards of young Argentinians doing the same. Since your country is fairly populous, and at the time had a large middle class, I wasn't surprised in the least, but what DID surprise me at the time was the explanation I heard constantly from these folks - "The peso being pegged to the $US has resulted in really high value of the currency, so I traded my money to $US because this won't last." They were aware that bigwigs were discussing decoupling the peso. They knew that the valuation of the currency was artificial.

What I found most interesting was the fact that everybody seemed to be aware of what was coming... not to the degree that it did, but they knew.

Hi Kyle, for everyone like that, there’s 100 others that think Argentina is the best country in the planet, safe, rich and prosperous. What happens here happens in every mayor city is the brainwashed mantra.
That what happened here in 2001 was purely USA’s fault, and that its ok to be best buds with Chavez, Fidel and evo morales.
Average person today: Slow, stupid, metrosexual and politically correct.
Independent thought not included.

There’s smarter people, but in general, the mass, (in any country) is unbelievably stupid.
That’s why survivalists and preppers are such a rare breed.
I’ve learned to mind my own business and rarely ever mention my beliefs and mindset.
Here in Argentina, people don’t even see the wisdom in being armed for self defense, even in your own home and forget about preparing and having supplies, etc.
Yes, they did get scared (like cattle) during 2001 and every now and then after some particular horrendous crime or incident the “sheep” get unsettled, but people in Argentina and in most countries these days unfortunately, they lack the sheepdog mentality.
Little lesson I’ve learned:
Those that get it don’t need explanations, those that don’t hardly ever will no matter how hard you try to explain.



Bones said...

In the US, every time there's a particularly horrendous crime involving guns, the gun grabbers always use it as an opportunity to pass more restrictive gun laws. These laws never have any effect on crime; they only strip law abiding citizens of their right to defend themselves.

Sheep indeed.

Anonymous said...

I was talking to a "psychic" (yes, I know, but she's cheaper than a psychologist) who said that my survivalist mindset is a relic of my parents' way of thinking, and she was going on and on about the abundance all around us and blah blah blah. It seems that LOTS of people in the US think that way, that the world is milk and honey that's there for the asking, and that the depression here is just a momentary hiccup in the good times. Argentina was in a big recession before TPTB finally gave in and devalued the peso.

Right now they're trying frantically to plug the holes in the dam here, every day we get a steady stream of lies about how things are wonderful while more and more people lose their jobs and lose everything they own and are forced onto the streets. People are buying ultra cheap recreational vehicles to live in, and the media looks at increased RV sales and says "leisure is back!" Well, no.

The thing is, the people who lived through the 1930s are dead for the most part, so we have a nation that has never known hard times, a nation that planned for the stock market to fund their retirement, and for the govt old age pension to support them. They have no clue what to do, now that they are elderly and have no savings or stock funds and soon no healthcare that is not severely rationed, and next will be severe rationing of old age money. The youth are so clueless it's not funny, they are all fashion and celebrities and Britney Spears type pop music. They live in a bubble. They don't realize that the rest of the world is waiting for us to stumble so they can finish us off.

Don Williams said...

1) I think it is important for a survivalist to break out of an ideological mindset and try to discover the FACTs. Amazing what you find when you do that.

2) For example, there is a lot of uproar in the US News Media about a new uranium enrichment facility in Iran.
3) I was curious --because I know some people have done studies re how you can build underground facilities that can withstand even a major (1 Megaton) nuclear bomb.
Basically, you tunnel under a large mountain so that you have 1000 feet or so of granite over you.

4) So I went looking to see what the Iranians have built, assuming that they must be digging deep to protect an illegal nuclear weapons program.

And what I found is hilarious. They haven't built their facility "inside a mountain" as the New York Times reported. They have basically built something inside a hill that is less than 60 meters high. That won't even withstand a conventional bomb. You can look at the facility on Google maps and pull up the Terrain option to see the topo lines.

5) Maybe the Iranians are doing something bad somewhere else -- but the hoopla over this site is greatly overblown. If it was a big deal, the Iranians would have gone to greater lengths to protect it.

6) This incident reminded me of how much of our view of the world is created by what we are told by the news media -- not by what we check out firsthand.

In Plato's Republic, the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates noted that organized deceit is a problem with democracy -- so many citizens are like prisoners who have been in a cave all their life. They think the shadows flickering on the cave wall from campfires behind them are reality --not realizing that other people behind them are moving statues before the fires to make the shadows. They never use their mind to escape the cave, go out into the bright sunlight and see true reality.

Our people today are still seeing shadows and thinking they are real --except the shadows are flickering on our TV screens.

Anonymous said...

" I was talking to a "psychic" (yes, I know, but she's cheaper than a psychologist) "

A priest is cheaper still.

Anonymous said...

FerFal said: "Little lesson I’ve learned:
Those that get it don’t need explanations, those that don’t hardly ever will no matter how hard you try to explain."

That is a very valuable rule to go on. They'll usually get it quickly if they are going to get it all. Surround yourself will like minded folks who have already taken action. The others are a waste of time and your efforts and these are the ones who will be knocking on your door for help.

I discovered this rule the hard way attempting alert the family and financially extended myself to protect them. They partly got it, but then quickly went back into denial once a the "recovery" was hyped by the media, costing me thousands. Think mostly of yourself and yours and put aside something for other family members and needy if convenient.

The American family is not as tight as it once was and not nearly as strong as found in other parts of the world. Extended family could kick you to the curb as quickly as a stranger would. It's sad to have discovered that self reliance, once a core value in the U.S., is greatly atrophied.

A sheepdog has little in common with the sheep. The sheep, once panicked can and will overwhelm the sheepdog at the worst possible point. It's better to stick with your own kind regardless if they are family or not. Help only at arms length and with only little risk to yourself.

Hope this helps someone.