You have mentioned numerous times that people in the United
States are lucky because our police are not as corrupt as
The question that I have is whether the police in Argentina were
affected by widespread corruption before the economic collapse.
One of my fears is that USA police will become much more corrupt
and resemble the police in other nations where police corruption is
a fact of life.
How does one take corrupt police into survival planning? Or does
one just have to hope that such corruption doesn't touch one's life in a
Thank you for taking the time to read my questions,
It’s a delicate issue. First of all, I want to make this abundantly clear before the trashing of US police officers begins in the comment section: I will reject any comment that ever so slightly suggests that the majority of American police officers are corrupt. There’s corruption everywhere but painting with such a broad brush is an insult to the fine men Americans are lucky to have in uniform. I’ve seen the cops looting in NO clips, the gun confiscations, and yes they are all serious issues we should all be aware of. But in spite of all that it’s a WORLD of a difference compared to police in some third world countries where corruption is indeed deeply rooted and even socially accepted. Every single time a cop stopped me here I had to give him some money, the one I tried not to I got into trouble with. Hardly a week goes by without cops getting caught robbing at gunpoint, killing , raping or torturing someone. Last week a police captain in La Plata was caught after he robbed a bakery store using his issued firearm. I know police corruption in USA isn’t even close to these levels.
That being said, your concern is a legitimate one, and as the recession continues there’s a chance of corruption rising on all sectors, including police. This is yet another aspect that you wont find much info on. When people like Peter Shiff (his video can be seen in a post made a couple days ago) talk about recession and poverty, this is what comes along in the package. People like him have an idea of what’s coming, they understand it from a theory and logical point but you have to live it to experience the million of little things it ends up changing regarding the way you’ll be living from now on, and what may end up happening with police is one of them.
If you ever have to deal with the type of police we have here Argentina (expect for a handful of honorable exceptions) keep these things in mind.
1) A uniform no longer means good guy. The problem used to be bad guys disguising as police officers, now the problem is actual police officers committing all sorts of crime as mentioned above. A couple weeks ago we saw a couple of correctional police officers (with their wives!) rob a minimart and it was all caught on the security camera. After acting like normal clients filling their carts one pulls a gun and keeps the people at gun point, then he brings a sound suppressor(silencer) from his front pocket and quickly screws it onto the barrel. Total impunity.
2) Avoid encounters with the police as much as possible. As always just avoiding potential problems is always best. I’ve stopped and turned around to avoid checkpoints before, will do so again. It may be nothing, it may be bad guys, even if they are real cops, at least around here, it means at the very least that you’ll leave with a little less money. Sometimes when I can’t avoid them, what I usually do is get real close to the car in front of me, even slow down if I don’t have one close, until one gets in front of me. That way as we pass the checkpoint I’m “hiding” behind the first car. Even if one gets stopped, its more likely to be my “shield” and I can simply pretend to look the other way as I get by. Even if the cop signals me to stop it would be understandable that I didn’t see him because of the car in front blocking my vision. Sounds messy but after a while you get good at doing these things and avoiding stops and check points.
3) Briberies are an unfortunate reality in some third world countries. Other than that don’t try to get rid of a ticket that way since it’s a serious offense in more serious countries. Keep in mid that in some 3rd world nations the choice is either getting into trouble or bribing, so its more of a formalized robbery than a bribe.
4) When talking with the police, be polite, be formal but don’t give up information about yourself. Don’t mention guns, money, family or the type of job you do. As mentioned before, a uniform is no guarantee.
5) Someone please show me the contract you signed where it says life is supposed to be fair… . If someday the laws are changed, you’ll be glad to have as little paper trail as possible, specially when it comes to firearms. Make sure you have a few that where bought in face to face personal transactions. You may be able to keep those hidden somewhere if another gun confiscation occurs like the one after Katrina. The lists may be used not only by the government, but also cops or other agents gone bad looking for a juicy target to hit.
6) Its is better if you have a cop friend, preferably high ranking one that may speak in your favor if needed. Just having a name may spare you a lot of grief.