Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Nestor Kirchner Died Today


As sad as any death is, the truth is that today died (of heart failure) the man responsible for most of the calamities suffered in Argentina, responsible for the hunger of millions and death of thousands, responsible of official lax laws against criminals, allowing even murderers and rapists to walk out the police department in front of the victim’s family . Thanks to him, Argentina has become a paradise for criminals and welfare leaches, and a nightmare for law abiding citizens that can’t afford their own personal army and must pay exorbitant taxes on everything. Authoritarian, violent leftist, even Peron disliked the Montoneros and what they represented.  Mr. Kirchner was the one actually running the country in spite of his wife being in office and Ms. Kirchner has shallow chances of staying in power after next years presidential election. This opens the possibilities of more serious presidential alternatives, and we just might avoid sinking further into a replica of what Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela is today.
He will not be missed, and only a hypocrite would say otherwise.

FerFAL

23 comments:

Bones said...

It doesn't sound like a national day of mourning is in order - maybe drink a toast instead? You make it sound like Mrs Kirchner is seriously undermined by his death. Could this affect the stability of the government or will it simply mean she wields less power until the next election? Who is likely to take her place?

gaga said...

"Argentine bond prices gained after the news of Mr Kirchner's death"

"Mr Kirchner’s death sparked a surge in Argentine stocks in New York amid investor hopes that the “Kirchner era” was drawing to a close. Galicia, the South American country’s biggest consumer lender, surged as much as 26 per cent in New York as investors looked forward to a new era for business in the South American country."

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/344ae3fe-e1d1-11df-b71e-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss

Good news.

FerFAL said...

Bones said...

It doesn't sound like a national day of mourning is in order - maybe drink a toast instead? You make it sound like Mrs Kirchner is seriously undermined by his death. Could this affect the stability of the government or will it simply mean she wields less power until the next election? Who is likely to take her place?

Elections are just around the corner, she will simply lose power until the elections, then simply lose them. That's much better, since she's just removed through the electoral process. Whos gonna win? Hard to tell, maybe Mauricio Macri, maybe Duhalde does a comeback. Either one is better than kirchner. I know Duhalde, in spite of being pretty corrupt, would fix the crime problem or reduce it significnatly pretty quick.
FerFAL

Anonymous said...

It seems the markets are already celebrating:

"The MSCI Argentina index of six locally-based companies gained 6.4 percent to 3,342.65 at 12:07 p.m. New York time. It rallied as much as 13 percent, the steepest intraday advance since Nov. 24, 2008. Grupo Financiero Galicia SA, the South American country’s biggest consumer lender, surged as much as 26 percent. Argentina’s benchmark Merval index climbed to a record in each of the past five days."

"Investors are buying Argentine American depositary receipts on prospects that “the Kirchner era” of high inflation and low corporate investment may end, said Greg Lesko, who helps manage $750 million at Deltec Asset Management in New York."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-27/argentine-bonds-gain-as-kirchner-death-may-lead-to-change-in-debt-policies.html

I hope things will finally start looking up in Argentina.

Take care,
Alex

Anonymous said...

Maybe it's time for a toast, to the Argentine people, may they taste freedom. And hopefully they've learned that elections matter. IF Obama willingly gives up his seat in 2012, I suspect it will be a long time before Americans vote for a guy on the basis of good feelings as well.

Don Williams said...

Wow, you recovered from that anguished weeping and inconsolable grief pretty quickly, Ferfal. :)

Anonymous said...

I just finished listening to a National Public Radio obituary of Kirchner which didn't mention a thing about the failed policies you outlined in your post. They said he was "responsible for the economic gains Argentina has made since the collapse". Why am I not surprised that they would overlook his shortcomings as a national leader...

Anonymous said...

I wish a few politicians here in the USA would drop dead. Ok, not just a few...

gaga said...

"which didn't mention a thing about the failed policies you outlined in your post."

Kirchner wasn't even in power until after the economic collapse. Ferfal's issue is the collapse of the rule of law becuase of his policies, plus his behaviour has made Argentina's economy even worse.
Mauricio Macri and Duhalde don't exactly inspire confidence if you read their Wiki profile.

CroMagnon said...

Off topic post:

Hi FerFal...greetings from Turkey :) I read the book and enjoyed it immensely..have been following the blog for a long while but a first time commenter. I just wanted to point your readers to an interesting article on hoe psychopaths identify their victims. It basically conforms what you have been telling so far: If you look like a victim you will end up being one:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/extreme-fear/201010/how-psychopaths-choose-their-victims

cheers,

CroMagnon

Anonymous said...

Rest in peace.

and

Good riddance.

Wabano said...

Once they are in power, the marxists
or in this case the muslim mafia never let go.

Expect civil war, supported by the Chavez operatives and all the castro socialist rats...

Anonymous said...

http://www.publico.pt/Mundo/morreu-o-expresidente-argentino-nestor-kirchner_1463092

Anonymous said...

Sadly, Reuters is certainly painting him as a hero:

"Some supporters camped overnight in the square facing the pink presidential palace, where regional leaders and political figures were due to attend a wake on Thursday. Ordinary Argentines started queuing up to pay their last respects.

"After General Peron, he's the best president we ever had," said housewife Estela Orellano, 56, referring to the former strongman whose figure still looms large in the nation's political life as the namesake of the Peronist party.

Tens of thousands of people packed the square into the early hours to show support for Fernandez, some tying bunches of roses, flags and condolence letters to the railings.

Posters carrying the slogan "Nestor forever, hang in there Cristina" appeared across the capital, Buenos Aires."

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2811044220101028

falcon_01 said...

I pray things start getting better there. Most media reports I've seen are rose-colored at best:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2811044220101028

As always, thanks for keeping us informed and educated about what really goes on. It's been invaluable in keeping the right mindeset on how to keep going.

Anonymous said...

Here in the U.S. we are fighting against leftist politicians who would take us down this same road you talk about. So don't be overly sensitive to my question. Why do South American's favor the leftists so much? Is it simply because of a large lower class hearing a slick message promising them things? Is it more related to religion, i.e. left leaning priests who push this on them from birth? Or perhaps (this is our problem I think) the centrists or right leaning politicians are either incompetent or not as right leaning as they claim they are?

Anonymous said...

Ferfal makes the comments page on the reuters story

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2811044220101028

Oct 28, 2010 9:14am EDT
“He was the man responsible for most of the calamities suffered in Argentina, responsible for the hunger of millions and death of thousands, responsible of official lax laws against criminals, allowing even murderers and rapists to walk out the police department in front of the victim’s family . Thanks to him, Argentina has become a paradise for criminals and welfare leaches, and a nightmare for law abiding citizens that can’t afford their own personal army and must pay exorbitant taxes on everything. Authoritarian, violent leftist, even Peron disliked the Montoneros and what they represented.” From www.Ferfal.blogspot.com
Having read about this guy for years, and how he helped ruin a country- it only shows how leftist and corrupt the media really is when they try to make him seem like a great guy.

Oct 28, 2010 9:45am EDT
The only good communist is a dead communist

Oct 28, 2010 10:22am EDT
In Argentina its now 1 down and 1 to go. Hear that God?

Anonymous said...

"Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears; I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him". Quote (Act III, Scene II).

What Tyrant did not claim to have good intentions?

Anonymous said...

"Why do South American's favor the leftists so much? Is it simply because of a large lower class hearing a slick message promising them things?"

Read some history and look at current living conditions. South American countries have the most divided classes in the world...rich and poor, with limited upward mobility. Marxists only gain power when people are exploited. You need to offer them democracy, no matter how imperfect, or they will go to extremes.

Steve

Maldek said...

To all readers and FerFal:

What is socialism?

Socialism is the idea where the middle class pays the lower class so the upper class can live in peace.



Why is socialism so popular in so many countries of the world?

Socialism has the highest benefit for the ruling/upper class.
In no other form of goverment the upper 1% has so much power.

If you look at the US as it is today - in the last 10 years the US have become more and more socialist and at the same time the richest 1% has made more $ than ever before.

The socialist is SUPPOSED to be "for the little guy" because the lower class gets social benefits...but these benefits come from the hard working people, NOT from the rich guys. Work is taxed heavily while capital is taxed far far less. In Europe for example you pay up to 60% of your work income tax and up to 25% for income from capital gain. Big difference, eh?

THE SOLUTIO TO THE PROBLEM IS ***NOT*** MORE TAXES - IT IS LESS GOVERMENT, LESS TAXES FOR EVERYBODY!

Anna said...

So true Maldek - I know more than a few commenters on here are in love with socialism as a way to punish the rich *ahemdonwilliams* but it absolutely does not punish the rich.

Here is a question: why are all the super billionaires in the world socialists, if by supporting socialism it would mean the loss of their billions?

Anonymous said...

"The world has always been betrayed, not by scoundrels, but by decent men with bad ideas."

Sydney Harris.

Dan said...

The only good thing I heard about Nestor Kirchner was he went on camera in South of the Border by Oliver Stone and said that Bush told him to start a war to revitalize Argentina. Not some Marshall Plan but a war.